Steroids in Baseball...

Steroids in Baseball...
Steroids in Baseball..... I wish ESPN would get over this subhect already... It`s driving me crazy that it is talked about constantly at work. And I also wish they would leave Mark Mcquire alone. Maybe he did take steroids when alot of others were also. Big deal. He`s still very talented and put baseball on the map for a lot of people.. He looks like he`s suffereing from the steroid use now, if he did... They say when you`re not using them your body deterioates and loses the muscle definition and your body becomes weak and the bones are brittle later on... I think Mark is fully aware of what steroids can do to a person`s body,.... I really do...

Baseball just set new rules for steroid/drug testing (which the major league players union resisted for years :evil: ) so I think Congress should let baseball deal with it. Maybe if they were still floating around doing nothing--maybe. Given that there are new rules and penalties in place, however, lets see what those standards can do. In my opinion, baseball has been done a disservice by management or the players union or whomever has let this stuff go on. If Mark McGwire or Barry Bonds breaks some 50 year old record because they used some performance-enhancing drug then I don't consider that much of an accomplishment--they didn't do it on their own, like the guys who originally set the records. I've seen steroid use in sports in general on shows like Jane Pauley a lot lately, so I wonder where the pressure is coming from for Congress to get into this. Anybody know? Are there anti-steroid activists or did the child of a congressman die from steroid use or what? Oh, and why just baseball? Are baseball players the only ones who ever use steroids? :shock:

I think they're picking on baseball because they have the most lenient rules when it comes to steroids, more lenient than say, football. Why has it come up? I'm not sure except that I think it was John McCain who got the whole thing going. I know there were parents at the hearings. One of their teenage sons committed suicide after having taken steroids in attempt to get into the major leagues. In my opinion, Congress has much higher priorities than baseball steroid use, and it's a waste of their time.

I think they're picking on baseball because they have the most lenient rules when it comes to steroids, more lenient than say, football. Why has it come up? I'm not sure except that I think it was John McCain who got the whole thing going. I know there were parents at the hearings. One of their teenage sons committed suicide after having taken steroids in attempt to get into the major leagues. In my opinion, Congress has much higher priorities than baseball steroid use, and it's a waste of their time. I agree with fighting for change in baseball, protecting future players from getting involved in a downward spiral after their career in over. I think that`s what mark MGquire was saying....warn kids about the longterm dangers of the drug, to protect them from using for their own strength. I feel that Mark MCquire is already suffering from the effects of it.

Baseball just set new rules for steroid/drug testing (which the major league players union resisted for years :evil: ) so I think Congress should let baseball deal with it. Maybe if they were still floating around doing nothing--maybe. Given that there are new rules and penalties in place, however, lets see what those standards can do. In my opinion, baseball has been done a disservice by management or the players union or whomever has let this stuff go on. If Mark McGwire or Barry Bonds breaks some 50 year old record because they used some performance-enhancing drug then I don't consider that much of an accomplishment--they didn't do it on their own, like the guys who originally set the records. I've seen steroid use in sports in general on shows like Jane Pauley a lot lately, so I wonder where the pressure is coming from for Congress to get into this. Anybody know? Are there anti-steroid activists or did the child of a congressman die from steroid use or what? Oh, and why just baseball? Are baseball players the only ones who ever use steroids? :shock: I think any records broken by a player that was using steroids is bogus....and no record was broken.

... I feel that Mark MCquire is already suffering from the effects of it. ... I agree with you. He doesn't look well!

In my opinion, baseball has been done a disservice by management or the players union or whomever has let this stuff go on. If Mark McGwire or Barry Bonds breaks some 50 year old record because they used some performance-enhancing drug then I don't consider that much of an accomplishment--they didn't do it on their own, like the guys who originally set the records. ITA. It shouldn't be allowed to go on in baseball or any other sport. It's not fair to compare what someone using "performance-enhancing" drugs does to another athlete who achieved a lot without such assistance. I really hate the "but everyone else is doing it" defense. Just like when teenagers are trying the same line on their parents to get permission to extend a curfew or something, there is a strong probability that not everyone is doing it...even though when you look around it may seem like it's everyone. Athletes that choose to use "performance-enhancing" drugs are being short-sighted about their lives. If a drug can effect such a huge physical change in a short amount of time, it's dangerous. Are the long term health risks worth the fame/glory/money the athlete might attain during the early years of drug use? Obviously, many athletes think they are or they wouldn't be using these drugs. I'd rather be poor and unknown and live a long, healthy life than be rich and famous for a short time and then die or become infirm due to the drugs I took.

In my opinion, baseball has been done a disservice by management or the players union or whomever has let this stuff go on. If Mark McGwire or Barry Bonds breaks some 50 year old record because they used some performance-enhancing drug then I don't consider that much of an accomplishment--they didn't do it on their own, like the guys who originally set the records. ITA. It shouldn't be allowed to go on in baseball or any other sport. It's not fair to compare what someone using "performance-enhancing" drugs does to another athlete who achieved a lot without such assistance. I really hate the "but everyone else is doing it" defense. Just like when teenagers are trying the same line on their parents to get permission to extend a curfew or something, there is a strong probability that not everyone is doing it...even though when you look around it may seem like it's everyone. Athletes that choose to use "performance-enhancing" drugs are being short-sighted about their lives. If a drug can effect such a huge physical change in a short amount of time, it's dangerous. Are the long term health risks worth the fame/glory/money the athlete might attain during the early years of drug use? Obviously, many athletes think they are or they wouldn't be using these drugs. I'd rather be poor and unknown and live a long, healthy life than be rich and famous for a short time and then die or become infirm due to the drugs I took. I agree Brinna. When the athletes felt like "everyone was doing it" To them that meant there was no harm no foul................. But now that ii is coming to light we are hearing differently about the risks associated with the drug. We now know after not taking it your bones weaken, and you get tired easily and feel very sickly. It also looks like it has aged Mark Mcquire. I just always liked him, that`s why i wanted to support him a little bit. If he had it to do all over again, I honestly believe he wouldn`t have. It reminds me of the 60`s, when so many were in the age of enlightenment and abused drugs,...only years later they see what the effects of the drugs did to their body.. Too little, too late.

I think a lot of athletes feel pressured to do well and that's why some of them turn to "performance enhancement." I, however, don't think that's an excuse. I say work harder and practice more. Children look up to the Mark McGuires and Jason Giambis of the world. I think Jason should talk to kids and let them know that steroid use is not a good thing and it's wrong, but if someone makes a mistake they can overcome their bad decision and with hard work they can do well. My son plays baseball and basketball and I talk to him about things like that all the time.

This stuff has been going on for years. I for one would be happy to see it all stop. Just like Realitysista said, these athletes are role models for children. What example have they been showing them? Hey, you don't need to work hard, just use this drug and save yourself half the work. All the records they have broken should mean squat. I'd rather see less impressive statistics. How is a real athlete to compete??? I also don't think professional athletes who do drugs should just get a slap on the wrist and a fine. In the real world, you more than likely would get fired on the first offense. When did we start holding professional athletes to a lower standard? When did the lines get so blurred? It is all just sad and sickening to me.

Random drug testing should be mandatory in all sports, you don't pass, you're booted. No questions asked. All of the records that have been broken by people using performance enhancing drugs should be stricken from the record. Drug use has ruined professional sports. These sports stars are idolized by so many kids and they COULD be such wonderful role models, but they're not. They're just rich drug addicts.

Re: Drug Abuse
I'm pretty much fed up with professional sports nowadays. And it's not just because of the rampant drug abuse, but that's part of it. I agree with Rufus, there should be random testing. And those that are caught using drugs should get booted. Not just for a game or two, but for the whole season... or maybe for their entire career if they are a multiple time offender.

I say they get suspended for the remainder of the season for the first offense, and banned for eternity for the second offense. And no grace period while it is under appeal. Professional and college both.

The thing is.. How would anyone know now, who used steroids and achieved "help" for their performance and who didn`t use them. I mean, after some of them are dececeased now. We`ll never know if they did or didn`t, andf those who are done with their sport, and can no longer be tested. How would anyone know who`s record was "clean" and who`s record had the help of the drug? Because there head was too large, then it wasn`t? I don`t know. I just don`t see how anyone could know for sure, who used and who didn`t. Nobody will and some can`t admit it now. I have a feeling that everyone who had, then beat a record had help of steroids. I know we can`t know for sure---- Now. There are people who use steroids in sports all the time, yet have no records at all. How much does it really help an athlete? Dont you have to have some kind of skills in the first place?

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