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pika- 09-28-2005
Ms. President
Do you think we'll have a female president in our lifetime? Will the first one be voted in herself or will she be a vice-president running with a male candidate who has to step down? As with a male candidate, I'd have to agree with a female candidates' policies to vote for her. I wouldn't vote for a female candidate just to get the first female president. I remember when Geraldine Ferraro ran as running mate with Walter Mondale and many women's groups were pushing women to vote for Mondale to get Ferraro the vice-presidency. I didn't vote for them because I didn't agree with how they wanted to run things. As a sidenote, I've wondered do presidential candidates have to be married? If a single person became president, would they be able to choose a first man or first lady or would they just not have one? What if the president is married but their spouse doesn't want to have that role? Could it be assigned to someone else?

Straight- 09-28-2005
Re: Ms. President
Do you think we'll have a female president in our lifetime? Will the first one be voted in herself or will she be a vice-president running with a male candidate who has to step down? As with a male candidate, I'd have to agree with a female candidates' policies to vote for her. I wouldn't vote for a female candidate just to get the first female president. I remember when Geraldine Ferraro ran as running mate with Walter Mondale and many women's groups were pushing women to vote for Mondale to get Ferraro the vice-presidency. I didn't vote for them because I didn't agree with how they wanted to run things. As a sidenote, I've wondered do presidential candidates have to be married? If a single person became president, would they be able to choose a first man or first lady or would they just not have one? What if the president is married but their spouse doesn't want to have that role? Could it be assigned to someone else? You raised some good points. There is precedent for some of the answers. In particular, it is not necessary to have a First Lady per se, although that is the custom. Here are some interesting questions: 1. What person, later elected president, married a woman who was already pregnant with his child? 2. Who was the only president elected as a bachelor? 3. What president had been divorced when he was elected? 4. What president fathered, would you believe (R.I.P., Don Adams) 15, yes fifteen, children? 5. Who was the only president to be married in the White House? 6. How many presidents were married while in office? So many chief executives are known, or widely believed to have been, involved in various sexual peccadilloes, including, but not limited to: illegitimate children, smuggling girl friends into the White House, and even trying (according to at least one claimant) to climb into bed with females they hardly knew. Obviously, for some people, being a sexually predatory male takes precedence over the dignity of the highest office in the land. Senators and congressmen are even worse. Because they have lower profiles, it is harder to call them to account for their deeds, mis or otherwise.

StillTara- 10-03-2005

The only answer I know off hand is James Buchanan. He was a bachelor. I don't think that could ever happen today. Presidents have to have a spouse and the requisite number of children.

StillTara- 10-03-2005

As far as the original question - There should be a woman president sometime fairly soon. I think it's going to be hard, though, because in order to be president, a person has to be super ambitious and pretty ruthless, and super ambitious, pretty rutheless women are kind of hated in this country. I guess she'd have to be really good at hiding her ambition and ruthlessness - like maybe a female Ronald Reagan, oh shucks type. Hillary's such a lightening rod, I don't see her doing it. But I think it will happen - someday, hopefully in my lifetime.

Straight- 10-03-2005

Off hand and on foot, here are the answers to the questions: 1. Ronald Reagan, yes THAT Ronald Reagan. 2. Tara is CORRECT. James Buchanan was the only president who was a bachelor when elected to office. 3. Reagan again. He had been married to (and divorced from) the actress, Jane Wyman, an Oscar winner for JOHNNY BELINDA, and still alive at 91. 4. John Tyler ("Tippecanoe and Tyler too"), was elected vice president but became chief executive when William Henry Harrison died after one year in office. Tyler fathered eight children by his first wife and seven more by his second. The youngest was born when he was 70 years old and lived until 1947. 5. Grover Cleveland (born in New Jersey) was the only president to have been married in the White House. 6. In addition to Cleveland and Tyler, Woodrow Wilson was also married during his presidency. As to the main question--Who would have believed that Great Britain would have a female prime minister, even ten years before it happened? It can happen here and sooner than anyone thinks. Somewhere, under the rainbow, or right before us, there may be the "lucky" winner of a future lottery. In fact, many historians claim that we have already had a de facto female president. (Thomas) Woodrow Wilson suffered two strokes in Sept.-Oct., 1919. The public was never informed of the severity of his disability. Edith Bolling Wilson, his second wife, took over many of the routine details of the presidency, unknown even to the vice president or most members of the Cabinet. In her autobiography, she called her role a "stewardship" and said that she never made any substantive decisions. Edith Bolling Wilson died at 89, which makes her the third oldest presidential widow. To date, Bess Truman has the record (97), but Lady Bird Johnson is still alive at 93.

StillTara- 10-09-2005

Interesting, Straight. Do you think an unmarried person without children can be elected to the presidency in the early twenty-first century? I would say - no. It seems like presidential candidates are required to have an adoring wife and the requisite 2.3 children. However, it's possible that women could change this. Harriet Miers, Supreme Court nominee, has never been married and has no children. (However, conservatives do seem to hate her, and it wouldn't surprise me much if she's forced to withdraw.) But then we have the never-married Condi Rice. Could she possibly run for president in 2008?

Jillibean- 10-23-2005

But then we have the never-married Condi Rice. Could she possibly run for president in 2008? Condi is an amazingly smart woman that I would vote for immediately!! The more I have learned about her, the more I agree and love the way she speaks out about the issues. Always "cool, calm and collect" She is such a confident lady. It`s hard not to respect her.

La Belle- 10-23-2005

Condi is fos in my opinion. She wouldn't make a good president. I believe that we will see a woman vice president, before a woman will run for the President position.

The Frog- 10-23-2005

I think that Oprah is amassing an army of housewives. With the snap of a finger she can sell a million books or track down someone that hasn't been caught in twenty years. Imagine what would happen if she ran for president and said "Vote for Me"

Rufus- 10-24-2005

I think you'll see Arnold as president before you'll see a woman. Take that however you want!

Matt- 10-28-2005
Re: Woman President
If there's a decent woman candidate in the running, I think it's a good possibility we could have a woman President in the somewhat near future. Other that Mrs. Clinton, though, I can't think of anyone interested in running for the office.

Straight- 11-26-2005

Do not discount Hillary Clinton as a possible president. It may not be likely, but it is possible. If H. C. keeps all the states won by Kerry, then capturing Florida would make her Madame President. Of course, she does not figure to keep all the 2004 blue states and would not be the favorite in Florida, but would have some chance of pulling off the double. Some Democratic pundits believe that she would have at least a slim chance in Arkansas, Nevada, New Mexico, and Louisiana. Ohio is a longshot, but only if Diebold does not control the polls. There are no other strong female Democratic candidates on the horizon, but the Republicans have at least Condi Rice and Liz Dole. The former says that she does not want the office; the latter likely does. Great Britain and Israel, both with strong patriarchal traditions, elected females as their leaders. It seems inevitable that the U.S.A. will do so as well in the relatively near future, although the eventual winner may be currently unknown to the general public.

The Frog- 11-26-2005

i want John McCain to be president.

Straight- 11-26-2005

Ummmm, unless you know something that no one else does (which is possible), John Mc Cain is a man. However, we could do a lot worse, and in fact, we have.

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